Monday, March 21, 2011

Educational Elite

Graduate-bot says what?
I've been thinking a lot about school lately. In fact, I've been thinking about higher education, Ivy-league and otherwise, since before I finished undergrad. I'm not talking academics, here, because I've been thinking academics since forever. My official membership in the Nerd Herd was granted in high school, and I keep the flame burning in my adult life by making grammar jokes and geeking out about fonts on the regular.

No, I'm talking about something far more insidious, something which I'll call "Schooling." I started thinking about this before the end of high school, when I was applying to colleges. Even though I had a 4.0, high SAT scores and seven million extracurricular feathers in my hat, I knew my family couldn't afford Wellesley or Harvard, so I didn't bother applying. I picked the closest, cheapest public university. I held steadfastly to the idea that "good" schools don't equal "smart" people. And I still believe that's true with all my heart.

But a couple years out of college, I started reading a bunch of junk about class (Snobbery: The American Version, and Class: A Guide through the American Status System, among others) that adjusted my perspective. Sure, going to a "good" college doesn't make you a "good" person. But having credentials from a "better" school WILL make people perceive you as "better" - better at your job, better at thinking/living/succeeding - and you will therefore be the recipient of preferential treatment, likely advancing farther and faster than your averagely-schooled countrymen. Thus, the perception that people who went to good schools are better/smarter/faster becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

In true Baader-Meinhof style, my new perspective was reinforced wherever I went. My current workplace is above-average in its obsession with Schooling. My immediate supervisor not only gleefully puts down my alma mater, but includes my hometown(s), parental occupations and the part of Portland where I live as dry tinder for the fires of devaluation. Introductions to new people are prefaced with long strings of alma maters, followed by names as inessential afterthoughts.

Not me, I swear.
A recent article from The Cronicle of Higher Education took educational elitism to a whole new level, reinforcing my suspicions that it's not what you accomplish or how smart you are, but where you've been and who you know that matters in certain (powerful, rich) circles.

"Why all this prognostication?" you may ask. Outside of discourse for discourse's sake, some of you know that I've been mulling pursuing my masters for oh, say, ever. I applied to a few schools, and got into all of them. I've narrowed my choices down to two: One is close to home and dirt-cheap. The other is far away and Ivy league. So research into educational elitism is not only interesting, but personally a propos. If the coursework is the same - and I believe it is - which one do I choose? Do I follow the proletariat's path and attend the former, or "sell out" and attend the latter? Dear readers, weigh in in the comments. Do it now, lest I royally screw up my future, my credibility, or both!

*By the by, linking to these books don't equate to authorial laudability - both authors are a tad douchey, and exhibit little humanity in belittling those-of-lesser-means, which ought to be a cardinal sin in the writing world. If you can't empathize, you shouldn't storytell.

19 comments:

  1. I come from a mixed marriage in terms of class--my dad grew up as a wealthy son of college graduates and my mom grew up poor and became the only member of her family to go to college. Now they're middle class and both are happy about it. Just sharing for the sake of sharing...

    That being said, another possible element in your grad school consideration could be whether you'd like to stay where you are now vs. experience life somewhere else. Either way, good luck! If you end up on the East Coast, I hope we can meet up sometime. :)

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  2. I'm wary about accumulating debt so one of the first things I'd consider if I was in your shoes is how much debt I'd end up with at the end of each program.

    If the Ivy League school is in a big city the cost of living there could be substantially higher than attending the other school.

    This doesn't mean that it wouldn't be worth the extra money in the long term...it's just something I'd research in depth beforehand (especially if you're pursuing a degree in a highly competitive field. )

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  3. I figure I have enough automatic disadvantages based off my sex and other characteristics I have no control over, I don't need to add to the pile of disadvantages I have just out of some sense of what's fair. If you have an opportunity to grab an advantage, do it, just don't perpetuate the discrimination against others by your own actions.

    This whole "The system is wrong therefore I am going to disadvantage myself in an attempt to not play into the hands of the system" thing doesn't help anyone, least of all yourself. In fact, it just limits your potential ability to rise up in this unfair system and make change from above.

    Just my 2 cents.

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  4. One of the strangest and hardest experiences of my life was living with a group of Ivy League graduates in Maryland. Talk about a bunch of over-coddled assholes. I could never live down the fact I went to SOU until their parents showed up and were really happy there was one well-adjusted person in the house who could drink beer without talking about the country it was 'born' in and who could cook.

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  5. I don't know what you're studying, but I am in graduate school now in England working on creative industry and cultural policy. I think that I could have done this degree in most places, there are places I could be more focused, etc. At the same time, I find that it is very much down to the professor-student relationship in graduate school that is really going to make a holy hell of a difference for your chances post grad school.

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  6. I second the Ivy League, even if it is just for the sake of getting out of a familiar environment and experiencing a new perspective. This is the most exciting way to personally grow, I think. And I will say this. I went for the local option when I had other options for my MBA and it was a huge mistake. The truth is, the coursework is similar, but your classmates are not. Your peers and your new surroundings will challenge you - and after all, you want the complete experience. Right? And remember the point about snooty employers? It's true. Trust me on that one. My heart breaks into a thousand squishy pieces when I think of all of the effort I put in to my program knowing that my resume won't get a second glance because of my academic credentials. What's worse, I did have a good GPA and "interesting" extra-curricular activities. I can't tell you how many times I tell myself, "Should have gone to Stanford...".

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  7. I went to Yale as an undergrad, coming from the rural Midwest and a very blue-collar background. (My mom taught 2nd grade before she quit to have kids; my dad worked in a tire factory for 40 years before he retired last year. Most of my extended family were farmers). Going there definitely put me far outside my comfort zone. One of my 1st year roomates was 4th generation, and the other was the daughter of a very wealthy foreign businessman and had gone to boarding schools in the US and S. Korea her whole life. Quite a switch from the kids I grew up with.

    There is a point to this. :) Though I met a lot of giant, spoiled assholes, I also met some incredibly amazing people and challenged myself more than I probably would have if I'd stayed home and gone to State. It's cheesy, but being that kind of "fish out of water" stretched me both academically and socially, and I'm glad I took a chance and went there. And yeah, I will say that the name recognition does open doors, so that doesn't hurt either.

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  8. I say Ivy League! It opens up more options for you and does give you more credibility from a business sense. Not that I agree with that, but it's reality. Plus it's cool!

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  9. I vote for the distant option, not because of the ivy league, but because of the distance. It could be cool, but even if some of it sucks, it only sucks for a couple of years, and there WILL be some good people and cool experiences.

    And on second thought, I also vote for it for the ivy league part. Not because it will earn you special entry into elite circles, but for the same reason as the distance. It will offer you a different perspective from what you have known. You'll have authority on a new place AND a new social/cultural milieu.

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  10. Deena: My fam's similar to yours, except the other way 'round. My mom was the East Coast Ivy blue blood and my dad the rakish working-class heartbreaker. The tension between them was pretty obvious and at least partly due to their class difference, which is probably a big part of the reason why I grew up more painfully aware of these things than most kids, and also why I'm conflicted about these choices (although the cost of attendance is a big factor too). In any case, if I do end up on the East Coast, we will kick it old school! Or new school, as the case may be.

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  11. Tara - It's good to hear from someone who had a good experience at an Ivy! I definitely think the fish-out-of-water experience would be an amazing life experience - especially because I'd be forced to try my hand at real, actual independence - navigating public transit being not the least of my worries. :)

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  12. Heather: So true. Someone said that disadvantaging yourself for the sake of disadvantaging yourself doesn't really make any sense, so in the end it'll probably just come down to a numbers game. need scholarships!

    Eglentyne: Oooh just think of all the making-fun-of-snooty-Ivy-types blogging opportunities! Since I don't know anyone in the new city, maybe I'll have more time to ruminate and/or put together sparkly packages to mail?:D

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  13. I say go to the Ivy League and parasatise the upper echalons. On the other hand, the douche might be so unbearable you might want to kill yourself.

    I am contemplating a similar career move where I am at that point where I have to consider an... MBA in the next couple of years to go anywhere in my corporate career. I have reached the depressing conclusion that bracing myself and going for the top douchey schools is the right thing to do financially.

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  14. Tough decision Sarah, but I don´t think you can go wrong either way. I would absolutely not characterize staying home as wussing out; being debt-free is a wonderful, wonderful thing. On the other hand, you would probably have a great time i...n the East. I wish I had your brain. I lived two streets from Brown Univ. when I was 20 or 21., but attended junior college and then the working-class Rhode Island College. (My high school GPA was less than 2.0). I remember a Brown student telling me at a party: ¨RIC....I think I´ve heard of that.¨ But that was the exception. Most Ivy leaguers were really cool people. Good luck with whatever you decide.

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  15. Putting oneself in uncomfortable positions brings about self-growth. Whatever you decide to do I'm sure you will do well with it.

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  16. I'd pick the El Cheapo local school --- like the other commenter said, going to an expensive, elite school really racks up the debt, and you can never predict your future ability to repay that debt. (Heck, you might be unemployed for years following your graduation. That's what happened to me).

    (For undergrad, I went to a state school close to home that gave me a full ride scholarship. It was the only school I even applied to. I still feel like I got a really good education there, and job interviewers have tended to ooh and ah over my coursework and skill set. So cheap state school doesn't always mean poor quality!)

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  17. It would be so much easier if money were no object, darn it! This, this is why I want a trust fund.

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  18. I got an 80% scholarship and went to
    Reed in the MALS program. This was in the good old days of the turn of the 90s when they had money to throw around. Worth looking into anyway and definitely a leg up if you should decide you want to get a doctorate (a step I did not take because it was not worth it at that point in my life but might be in yours.) My education was mostly at PSU, a great school when I was there in the 80's. Reed was not as good, actually, for me, although I had a couple of outstanding profs.

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  19. Oh Hattie! That is so cool! I spoke with the director for the Reed MALS program a couple of different times - the program interests me greatly, although the director was a little discouraging (she seemed to think I was too young and possibly too career-focused). ANYway, it's interesting that you liked PSU better - what did you like best about the MALS program? And what, oh what, is the name of that scholarship and is it still around?

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